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the Office of Special Affairs under penalty of, I
believe, it is a million dollars per infraction.

Q Were there also penalties from the organization
itself about your rank?

A You would be -- if you violated those policies
you would be subjected to the internal ethics of the
ethics practices of the organization. You are subject to
lose any ranking that you had, any position, your
certificates, and the organization felt that your
spiritual freedom was at stake as well, if didn’t have
access or availability Scientology practices.

Q If you were still a member of the Office of
Special Affairs or when you were still a member of the
Office of Special Affairs, if you were called in to
testify would you be free to testify?

BY MS. RIVELLINI:

Q Mr. Oliver, would there have been a penalty ——
MR. TYSON: Objection, your Honor.

BY MS. RIVELLINI:

Q Based upon the non—disclosure form that you
signed if you had come into court, or any arena and
testified contrary to what Scientology wanted you to,