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were different people in my capacity doing this with
different private investigators.

Q Why are these outside sources used, and why are
the lawyers used as shields?

A The organization itself, it would be deemed
inappropriate in any other setting, that an organization
like a church, if you will, would be doing an
investigation on someone. So a shield needs to be
created in order to justify the investigation of a
private individual. So they bring in the attorneys and
say we need so many PI’s, we need some investigators from
inside the organization to obtain intelligence
information on a private individual. How can we do this?
Well, this is one way we can do it.

Q Is that more for public relations?

A Completely.

Q Who is really in charge?

A The Office of Special Affairs, actually the Sea
Org. senior management is in charge.

Q How long did you actually practice in the
Office of Special Affairs?

A Two years.

Q During those two years was there ever any
discretion on your part about what you might do and carry
out?